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		<title>By: fitness expert</title>
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		<dc:creator>fitness expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Back Stretches For Back Pain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your post! I found your site on bing directory search. You definitely know your stuff.  I&#8217;ll be sending the link to my mail list &#8211; they&#8217;ve got to read this!</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel Testerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabel Testerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 01:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Abbey Galluzzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abbey Galluzzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a very intelligent person!</description>
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		<title>By: Michael ( Ireland)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael ( Ireland)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to omit Donnacha De Long from mention either , as he has a Gaelic first name and a Norman surname - and we all know from our history that the Normans in Ireland became &quot; more Irish than the Irish themselves &quot; !

However, I would like to point out to Donnacha that Dave now has a choice of unions - the NUJ, the BAJ  and the CIOJ, and I know that the CIOJ have been active on behalf of journalistic  staff in the BBC, as they are in RTE in Ireland. 

I have been a Member of both NUJ and CIOJ throughout my 43 years, and now in semi-retirement I am thinking of giving the BAJ a shot, just for good measure to introduce an element of closure at this stage of my life heh heh heh ...

I would be joining the BAJ at this stage, not to further any ambition of my own as I&#039;m too old now for all of that , but to support them as I see that they are providing the very best service as a union for the working journalist, of the three on offer ( IMHO ) .  

 The CIOJ went out with the Empire, the NUJ has more policies than any political party I know - and mostly the wrong ones at that :-)    

Of course under Article 40 of the Irish Constitution nobody in the epublic  is required to join any union at all, so the closed shop is de jure though not de facto unconsitutional in Ireland ( Quirke v NUJ, High Court, Dublin, 1981, before Mr. Justice McWilliams ) .  

Of course my fellow posters here should not belong to any journalist union - their writing is too good, perhaps P.E.N. International or the Society of Authors :-) 

And all our problems about deciding which union to join would be solved under P.M. Nick Griffin - we wouldn&#039;t have any ! 

I suspect that under P.M. Griffin that we Irish would have to fight our War of Independence all over again, 1916 and all of that ... just think of it, we&#039;d have to learn to hate the English from scratch again :-)

 Give us Gordon Brown ten times over in preference to the Griffin Menu !!!

Merry Xmas All . 

Cheers,
Michael .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to omit Donnacha De Long from mention either , as he has a Gaelic first name and a Norman surname &#8211; and we all know from our history that the Normans in Ireland became &#8221; more Irish than the Irish themselves &#8221; !</p>
<p>However, I would like to point out to Donnacha that Dave now has a choice of unions &#8211; the NUJ, the BAJ  and the CIOJ, and I know that the CIOJ have been active on behalf of journalistic  staff in the BBC, as they are in RTE in Ireland. </p>
<p>I have been a Member of both NUJ and CIOJ throughout my 43 years, and now in semi-retirement I am thinking of giving the BAJ a shot, just for good measure to introduce an element of closure at this stage of my life heh heh heh &#8230;</p>
<p>I would be joining the BAJ at this stage, not to further any ambition of my own as I&#8217;m too old now for all of that , but to support them as I see that they are providing the very best service as a union for the working journalist, of the three on offer ( IMHO ) .  </p>
<p> The CIOJ went out with the Empire, the NUJ has more policies than any political party I know &#8211; and mostly the wrong ones at that <img src='http://daveleejblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />     </p>
<p>Of course under Article 40 of the Irish Constitution nobody in the epublic  is required to join any union at all, so the closed shop is de jure though not de facto unconsitutional in Ireland ( Quirke v NUJ, High Court, Dublin, 1981, before Mr. Justice McWilliams ) .  </p>
<p>Of course my fellow posters here should not belong to any journalist union &#8211; their writing is too good, perhaps P.E.N. International or the Society of Authors <img src='http://daveleejblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>And all our problems about deciding which union to join would be solved under P.M. Nick Griffin &#8211; we wouldn&#8217;t have any ! </p>
<p>I suspect that under P.M. Griffin that we Irish would have to fight our War of Independence all over again, 1916 and all of that &#8230; just think of it, we&#8217;d have to learn to hate the English from scratch again <img src='http://daveleejblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> Give us Gordon Brown ten times over in preference to the Griffin Menu !!!</p>
<p>Merry Xmas All . </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Michael .</p>
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		<title>By: Michael ( Ireland)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael ( Ireland)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that Dave has an Irish surname, Lee - and even has a river called after him that flows through Cork - thus his great sense of justice and fair play ( BIG GRIN ) :-)

Cheers,
Michael .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that Dave has an Irish surname, Lee &#8211; and even has a river called after him that flows through Cork &#8211; thus his great sense of justice and fair play ( BIG GRIN ) <img src='http://daveleejblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Michael .</p>
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		<title>By: Michael ( Irelland)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael ( Irelland)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Irish freelance journalist and press photographer of some 43 years , I have to agree with Dave. 

The BBC has an enviable reputation in the promotion of Freedom of Expression - and so has Ireland in our written Constitution, Bunreacht na h-Eireann, which protects free speech . 

What if the BAJ or the CIOJ ot both refused to cover militant extremist Lefties on QT, one does not have to wonder what the reaction of the NUJ would be then !

I applaud Dave&#039;s decision in favour of Freedom of Expression in a world that the NUJ supremos try to stand on its head . 

As for Griffin on QT, he was in fact well behaved, did not impugn his right to Freedom of Expression accorded to him as a British citizen ( and a licence fee payer, I hope ! ) on the show ( for that us what it is, a political entertainment show , not a serious intellectual forum )and he also took mob criticism from a section of the audience quietly without any fuss. 

It was great television, as it was meant to be , great entertainment, a good show - 

exactly what the extremists who run the NUJ want to deny us :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Irish freelance journalist and press photographer of some 43 years , I have to agree with Dave. </p>
<p>The BBC has an enviable reputation in the promotion of Freedom of Expression &#8211; and so has Ireland in our written Constitution, Bunreacht na h-Eireann, which protects free speech . </p>
<p>What if the BAJ or the CIOJ ot both refused to cover militant extremist Lefties on QT, one does not have to wonder what the reaction of the NUJ would be then !</p>
<p>I applaud Dave&#8217;s decision in favour of Freedom of Expression in a world that the NUJ supremos try to stand on its head . </p>
<p>As for Griffin on QT, he was in fact well behaved, did not impugn his right to Freedom of Expression accorded to him as a British citizen ( and a licence fee payer, I hope ! ) on the show ( for that us what it is, a political entertainment show , not a serious intellectual forum )and he also took mob criticism from a section of the audience quietly without any fuss. </p>
<p>It was great television, as it was meant to be , great entertainment, a good show &#8211; </p>
<p>exactly what the extremists who run the NUJ want to deny us <img src='http://daveleejblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Donnacha DeLong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donnacha DeLong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Blogging never has been the NUJ’s style, has it?&quot;

Are you really trying to argue that blogging should replace democratic structures that seek to represent all members? Really? We can argue the point here until the cows come home, but if you actually want to do something about it, join the union, get involved in your branch and stop complaining. 

Also, as a BBC journalist, you can largely thank the NUJ (and the other unions there) for your decent pay grade, your high quality training regime, the organisation&#039;s focus on health and safety and all the other things the unions have achieved for ALL staff members in the BBC over the years. Of course you can&#039;t trust a union of which you&#039;re not a member to represent you - a union is its members and their democratic decisions - it has no interest in representing you until you join.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Blogging never has been the NUJ’s style, has it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you really trying to argue that blogging should replace democratic structures that seek to represent all members? Really? We can argue the point here until the cows come home, but if you actually want to do something about it, join the union, get involved in your branch and stop complaining. </p>
<p>Also, as a BBC journalist, you can largely thank the NUJ (and the other unions there) for your decent pay grade, your high quality training regime, the organisation&#8217;s focus on health and safety and all the other things the unions have achieved for ALL staff members in the BBC over the years. Of course you can&#8217;t trust a union of which you&#8217;re not a member to represent you &#8211; a union is its members and their democratic decisions &#8211; it has no interest in representing you until you join.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosie Niven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosie Niven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Michael.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Cross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, you&#039;re not going to have much influence on what the NUJ says on your behalf until you join it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, you&#8217;re not going to have much influence on what the NUJ says on your behalf until you join it.</p>
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