Comments on: The depressing but inevitable demise of Press Gazette

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By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:38:55 +0000

I didn’t intend to suggest you had a shoe-in (and looking over the post, I don’t think I did).

But the situation was that by taking on a freelancer full time, they were saving on paying a new member of staff… and probably paying a little less (compared to daily freelance rates) for each day’s work too.

This was explained to me — in those exact terms — in my interview.

By: paul

paul — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:23:28 +0000

ah, then it was described to you wrongly. There was no regular work agreement with them. Not disputing the rest: a sadly accurate description of how things were run. But I have to correct you on the suggestion that I was some kind of shoein for the job.

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:12:03 +0000

@paul,

It’s not re-writing history really, is it? You were freelance, yes, but it was regular weekly work (or at least, that’s how at it was described to me).

So rather than having you as freelance, and then hire a new member of staff (as the job advert suggested), they decided to just offer you the full time job.

All well and good — it’s not the job I’m complaining about here — it was more the manner in which I went from being invited for a job interview, to being told there was no job, to then being offered work experience… and then only being told I didn’t have the job when it was clear I’d be going to the pub.

Rather than getting a new reporter in to replace Patrick, they essentially just extended other hours.

Luckily for Press Gazette, the journalism skills on show were far superior than the management would suggest.

Which part of history have I rewritten?

By: paul

paul — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:05:11 +0000

Some rewriting of history there. They gave the job go me – i wasn’t a member of staff who got their hours extended. I was a freelance and applied for the job in the same way as you.

Paul ‘pancake of irrelevance’ mcnally.

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